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Last Updated: 29 Dec 2007

Retrofitting COMAND to Mercedes Benz Vehicles

 

 

 

24th October 2006 – Version 1.18

 

1.18 – Change © info, add CLK wiring info, fix link

1.17 – Correct/add to info for AUX input

1.16 – Add CL info, more Comand part nrs, SL programming note, buying info

1.15 – Add some preÕ99 ML info

1.14 – Add detail of what dealer must do with Star Diagnosis system

1.13 – Some W210 E-Class notes. Another ML-GPS aerial picture. Some other minor tweaks.

1.12 – A long time since the last update – general additions, pictures, re-arranged to group vehicle specific information together, added some more COMAND part numbers.

1.11 – more C/CLK info, also more nav. Sensor angle info.

1.10 – add C/CLK parts information. CANbus doesnÕt need shielded cable.

1.9 – fix part number for GPS aerial

1.8 – additional part numbers for COMAND and various extra information

1.7 – fix speed signal on C2 pin number

 

 

1) Introduction

 

This document describes how to retrofit COMAND to certain Mercedes Benz vehicles, and how to fit COMAND to non-Mercedes vehicles.

 

This document relates to the original COMAND system fitted up until around 2004/2005, where it was replaced by COMAND-APS. The original COMAND system has CDROM, the later system is DVD based. The newer system uses completely different technology to the older COMAND systems.

 

The document is somewhat lacking in pictures, because when I initially wrote this, I didnÕt have a digital camera, and there werenÕt many pictures of COMAND around.

 

This document applies to European and North American vehicles, and not to Japanese COMAND systems.

 

It is the summary of information that I know (from playing with COMAND systems for a while), and information gained from various discussion boards.

 

I donÕt warrant that any of this is correct, and if you damage your car then that is your responsibility. If you have Teleaid/E-Call, be careful to check that all works once you have finished. Do this at your own risk. If you do connect things wrongly you could considerably (and expensively) damage your car. If you are in the US and want Teleaid to work, you must use US COMAND unit not a European one.

 

Retrofitting COMAND to Mercedes Benz vehicles (where COMAND was available but was not ordered from the factory) is not that difficult. It is made considerably easier if the aerial cabling for the GPS aerial is already present (which it is in the M class and for many US vehicles, although some extension cables or a splitter may be needed on some vehicles), or if you are willing to install a separate GPS aerial rather than the Òfactory fittedÓ version on the roof/front-window of the vehicle.

 

There are two types of COMAND, with 4 varieties of  one of those types.

 

COMAND 2.5 – the original COMAND unit with a cassette deck used in S and CL, it is 2.5 din units in size. This was installed until the end of MY2002

 

COMAND 2.0 – this unit takes 2.0 DIN units (i.e a double DIN slot) – there are 4 varieties of facia though, and different units have different processing power and features:-

Original:         Square facia as used in ML, original CLK and E classes)

203:                Curvey facia As used in the new CLK/C/G-Wagon

230:                As used in the SL – these have more detailed mapping functions

220:                16x9 Widescreen unit as used in MY2003 S/CL – this is sometimes known as COMAND MOPF.

 

A ML Class COMAND Unit (original COMAND 2.0)

 

 

A C Class COMAND Unit (203 version of COMAND 2.0)

 

 

An SL COMAND unit (230 version of COMAND 2.0)

 

 

 

A S/CL COMAND unit (220 version of COMAND 2.0)

 

 

 

This document really only deals with installing COMAND 2.0 units – i.e. those pictured above.

 


2) Purchasing a COMAND unit

 

The cheapest place to purchase a COMAND unit is from Ebay – there are some useful searches shown in my buying guide at http://www.mercupgrades.com/buyit.htm

 

You can obtain warrantied used units from: -

COMAND.co.uk www.comand.co.uk – speak to Mark

MBenzNL www.mbenznl.com       - speak to Steve or Wanda

Megacomm www.megacomm.de

Audiocomp www.audiocomp.info

 

If you have a relatively new car, you should buy the latest available unit for your model. Mercedes part numbers take the format: -

 

            A XXX YYY ZZ BB

 

The XXX is the vehicle model number that the part first appeared in. Here is a selection

 

203

Current C class

208

Old CLK

209

New CLK

210

Old E

211

New E

215

CL

220

S

230

New SL

463

G-Wagen

 

You should purchase the part starting with the correct code for your car otherwise the catch mechanism will be wrong, the gyroscope angle will be wrong, and at a minimum it wonÕt work until a MB dealer has re-coded it, and in fact it may not work. This is because different units expect the Speed, Reverse and Lighting signals to be wired either via the carÕs CAN bus, or via discrete wiring, and cannot easily be changed.

 

Be ware that if you have one of the earliest CLK or E (ie model year 1999 and before) then you need to purchase the exact unit that would have been in the car, or a M class unit – consult your MB parts department for the part number. The older cars do not have CAN bus connected to the radio/command (and nor does the M class).

 

Also, if you are installing in a ML (or a car not designed for COMAND) you must by a ML unit – although some W208 CLK units can be made to function.

 

I believe that the new CLK/C/G-Wagen units may be interchangeable, but they will only fit in Mercedes Benz vehicles as they have non DIN shaped front panels. It may be that the speed signal is on the A connector on the G-Wagen unit, but they may be able to be coded to behave like a C/CLK unit. The SL unit is a different shape.

 


Here is an incomplete list of COMAND unit part numbers – note that this includes COMAND 2.5 systems for the S/CL (upto MY2002) which have very different wiring to that described in this document.

 

A more complete list of part numbers can be found on my website http://www.mercupgrades.com

 

Part Number

Model Year

US/Europe/Japan

Vehicle

A163 820 14 89

2001

Europe

ML

A163 820 36 89

2002-2004

Europe

ML

 

 

 

 

A203 820 91 89

From 05/00

Europe

C (new)

A203 820 96 89

From 03/01

Europe

C (new)

A203 827 36 42

Up to 9/2002

 

C (new)

A203 827 52 42

 

 

C (new)

A203 820 92 89

 

USA

C (new)

A203 827 31 42

 

USA

C (new)

A203 827 37 42

 

USA

C (new)

A203 827 53 42

 

USA

C (new)

A203 827 23 42

 

Japan

C (new), G-Wagen

A203 827 54 42

 

Japan

C (new), G-Wagen

 

 

 

 

A208 820 30 89

From 06/99

Europe

CLK (old)

A208 820 31 89

 

USA

CLK (old)

A208 820 37 89

From 12/99

Europe

CLK (old)

A208 820 38 89

MY2000

USA

CLK (old)

A208 820 34 89

From 06/00

Europe

CLK (old)

A208 820 35 89

MY2001

USA

CLK (old)

A208 820 40 89

From 07/00

Europe

CLK (old)

A208 820 44 89

From 08/01

Europe

CLK (old)

 

 

 

 

A210 820 48 89

From 06/99

Europe

E (old)

A210 820 51 89

From 06/00

Europe

E (old)

A210 820 54 89

From 07/00

Europe

E (old)

A210 820 56 89

From 08/01

Europe

E (old)

 

 

 

 

A220 820 03 89

From 08/98 to 06/99

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 04 89

To 06/99

USA

CL/S

A220 820 34 89

From 12/99

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 35 89

From 09/99 to 06/2000

USA

CL/S

A220 820 37 89

From 08/00

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 40 89

From 07/01

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 41 89

From 07/01 to 09/01

USA

CL/S

A220 820 46 89

From 04/99

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 47 89

From 06/99 to 09/99

USA

CL/S

A220 820 48 89

From 06/00

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 49 89

06/00 to 06/01 MY2001

USA

CL/S

A220 820 58 89

16x9 Widescreen

MY2003 (Dvd?)

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 59 89

16x9 Widescreen

MY2003 (Dvd?)

USA

CL/S

A220 820 60 89

16x9 Widescreen

Japan

CL/S

A220 820 71 26

From 10/99

Europe

CL/S

A220 820 72 26

From 09/99

USA

CL/S

A220 827 04 42

MY2002

Europe

CL/S

A220 827 05 42

MY2002

USA

CL/S

A220 827 14 42

16x9 Widescreen NO NAVIGATION

MY2003

Europe

CL/S

 

 

 

 

A230 820 05 89

Up to 31/07/02 / Chassis F026959

Europe

SL

A230 820 06 89

Up to 29/10/03 / Chassis F069434

USA

SL

A230 820 25 89

From 31/07/02 ; Chasis F026960

Europe

SL

A230 820 28 89

From 31/10/2003 (MY2002)

USA

SL

A230 820 23 89

Up to 31/10/02

Japan

SL

A230 820 29 89

From 10/09/02

Japan

SL

 

 

 

 

A463 820 10 89

 

Europe

G-Wagen

A463 820 15 89

 

Europe

G-Wagen

A463 820 16 89

 

 

G-Wagen

A463 820 17 89

Upto 31/10/03

USA

G-Wagen

A463 820 18 89

From 31/10/03

USA

G-Wagen

 

 

If you use a European COMAND unit on a US vehicle then weatherband will not work and AM radio reception will be incomplete because Europe uses a different spacing between stations than USA. European COMAND units have a TV button. US units have a blank button instead. The latest US units can be made to work with TV, older ones canÕt. Early COMAND 2.5 units do not support TV. US units do not support RDS text, European units do.

 

I suspect that having a US dealer install the latest US software on a European COMAND unit will make weatherband work again, but lose RDS text.

 

The COMAND unit has an inbuilt gyroscope, which must be aware of the angle that the unit is mounted in the dash. On the side of the unit is a special clip – different coloured clips are used for the different angles – if the wrong one is installed, navigation may not work well. These are the clips I am aware off: -

 

Car

Colour

Angle

E Class (W210)

Yellow

25 degrees

CLK Class (W208)

Green

20 degrees

SL Class (R230)

Brown

30 degrees

ML